Do you want to keep abreast of the latest in NHS finance and find out what your colleagues around the country are doing when faced with similar challenges?

If so then HFMATalk is the podcast for you. In every episode we will explore the topics that are of interest to you and shine a light on good practice in NHS finance and governance.

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Latest episodes


39: In conversation with Owen Harkin

Series host Mark Orchard speaks to Owen Harkin, Deputy Chief Executive and Director of Finance & Estates at Northern Health and Social Care Trust, and HFMA President 2021/22. Owen talks about his career and also also looks ahead to his role as HFMA President, discussing his presidential theme, his aims for the association, and what members can expect over the next 12 months.  

38: The future of the health and social care sector: behind the scenes at a HFMA and CIPFA roundtable

Senior leaders from across health and social care take part in a roundtable discussion on the future financial sustainability of the sector and the challenges facing integrated care systems. The roundtable was held jointly by the HFMA and CIPFA on 21 July 2021.

A briefing summarising the discussion in more detail is also available here. A full list of the roundtable participants can be accessed in the briefing.

37: In conversation with Julian Kelly

In this latest episode, Mark Orchard speaks to the most senior NHS finance professional in England, Julian Kelly, chief finance officer for NHS England and Improvement. Julian reflects on his career journey, what motivates him, and what it has been like to lead the NHS finance profession through one of the most challenging periods in the health service’s history.

This episode was recorded on Friday 16 July 2021

36: In conversation with Alan Brace

Mark Orchard speaks to Alan Brace, former director of finance in the department of health and social care within the Welsh government, and 2014 HFMA Finance Director of the Year. Newly retired, Alan reflects on his journey, his experience working in a variety of senior finance roles within his local Welsh community, and what he is most proud of as he looks back on a fantastic career. 

35: In conversation with Paul Baumann

Series host Mark Orchard speaks to Paul Baumann CBE, receiver general and chapter clerk for Westminster Abbey and former chief finance officer for NHS England. Throughout his career Paul has spent more than 30 years in senior finance roles both within the NHS and within the private sector. In a fascinating conversation, Paul discusses his career journey, his love of music, his brief acting career, and much more.

34: In conversation with Sandra Easton

In the second episode of this brand new series, Mark Orchard, chief finance officer at Portsmouth Hospitals University NHS Trust, has an in-depth conversation with Sandra Easton, national director of operational finance and performance at NHS England and NHS Improvement about her career, how she achieves a healthy work-life balance, building upon existing work to improve diversity and inclusion within NHS finance, and much more.

33: Preparing for the 2020/21 external audit

Mark Surridge, midlands lead for NHS audit and UK sector lead for local government and Cathie Eddowes, senior manager, audit quality team – public sector, from Mazars UK discuss the issues that are expected to be important during this years’ NHS external audits. The discussion covers the impact of Covid-19, where auditors are expected to focus their time, and what teams can do to best prepare for this year’s audit.

32: In conversation with Hardev Virdee

In the first episode of a brand new series Mark Orchard, chief finance officer at Portsmouth Hospitals University NHS Trust, speaks to Hardev Virdee, group chief financial officer at Barts Health NHS Foundation Trust, about about his life, his career journey, his role models, and much more.

31: Preparing the 2020/21 annual report and accounts

HFMAtalk speaks to Ian Ratcliffe, deputy director of sector accounting and consolidation at NHS England and NHS Improvement, about the issues that might be important over the next few weeks and months as NHS bodies prepare their annual report and accounts.

This conversation was recorded on Friday 26 March 2021.